Noah Sharp - The JUCO Ball Blog

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The JBB is the go to for Junior College baseball content for all of our levels of NJCA and Pacific associations. You can subscribe to the JBB over on Substack. This is Year six for Noah and I recording the Junior College Baseball Preview. It's always an entertaining listen when we get together. Exciting time for NJCA and Pacific association starting their seasons a couple weeks ago. Welcome Noah Sharp to the podcast again with Noah Sharp. I think this is Year six. It might be Year seven. Honestly it all runs together but we've been doing this a long time and I appreciate you doing this, trying to get everything cranked out here because it's a great time because you know juco's going and AI is going. Division two is going. D3 hasn't yet but we have. We have a lot to talk about and you have a tough job because you've got 1, 2, 3, the Pacific also. I mean you do a good job of covering everything as much as you can. So I appreciate it. I, you know, you and I personally, we go a long way back and I'm just proud of you because the work that you've done, you've built this thing. It takes a long time to do that and it takes years and years to do it. So I'm proud of you and I'm, I'm happy for all the success you're having. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's definitely been a crazy ride to say the least. I think, I think it's six or seven. I don't. It's it every year. I look forward to it. I think I probably bug you. It's like, oh, it's coming December. I'm just going to shoot the text. Hey Ryan, we doing this again? And I'll get the. Yeah, just, just hold off until after, after the convention. I'm like, okay, just, I don't want to forget it. [00:03:52] Speaker A: I don't know if you guys are in my notes. I, you know, from a, from a calendar standpoint and from a programming standpoint, this is something that I always look forward to, but it's always in my yearly reminders around December, January, ish to start to line everybody up just for me. I've got to take a little bit of a breather after the convention, but I know once the convention is done and I get done speaking on some of the, at some of the conventions, other conventions, I know it's time to focus on this. But I do really enjoy this part of it because I don't pay attention to all of it like you guys do. So I feel like I learn things every year from you guys on the teams, the players, who to watch. There's always intriguing stories and I was going to ask you this with what happened this fall with the juco portion of it and I don't think we'll know a lot from an NCAA standpoint until they come back. Like what are your thoughts on that? If we could possibly get to where kid goes to a two year school and it doesn't affect their four year eligibility. What, what are your thoughts on this? [00:04:54] Speaker B: So there's, there is a lot of thoughts I know with, with all that that went down obviously I'm, I'm in the junior college circle know how of people. Luckily I've been able to become friends with people at the, the national office so, so I kind of, I know more than most there's also some stuff that I know I can't say, so it's just like. But I, I know there's, there's stuff going on. I know I, I don't think from, from conversations I've had. My understanding was this is a one time. If you, I mean a prime example was, I think it was announced yesterday or today when I got it sent. But there's a guy, Ozuna, who was at Walter State during the same time. Pavia. Pavia, whatever was at New Mexico or at Nemi. And so he's getting that year back, I think. So the understanding was it's that one year and if you fall under that one year because I know a lot of guys left D1 and had a good, they had their extra year of eligibility but they couldn't use it D1. So then they had you though, like. [00:05:57] Speaker A: That was already in place because he was at the University of Tampa this fall. [00:06:01] Speaker B: So that was my understanding before the Pavia thing happened and now it happened. And I'm probably saying his name wrong because you know me, I can't read names. But my understanding was this, you have to apply for that specific year. It wasn't a catch all. At the moment, it's not a catch all. But I know from conversations I've, I've had they're. They're not wanting it to become a glorified, post grad esque thing from conversations I've had. And I don't think that would be great for anybody. I mean it'd be. It. You'd get the, the traffic jam of COVID But I think to a bigger extent if that were to happen. But again I, I also am, I'm in the weeds with all this JUCO stuff. So for me it would be beneficial if it were to happen. But Also I see 50,000 foot view it not being good because then you're going to get the trickle down and then it is going to create a mess. If it were to go that way, I think, and I think no one really want that. [00:07:02] Speaker A: I have my thoughts on the NCAA and it always happens this way where things happen and then it's retroactively. We're in a panic to try to fix things. I think where we'll land and don't hold me to this, I don't work at the ncaa. I think where we'll land is it'll be five. Everybody's got everybody. So when your clock starts, you got five to finish. And I think that's the fairest thing to everybody. To all levels, junior college, four year schools. I think if we just get to. Once you start as a full time student athlete, you got five years and that's it. [00:07:36] Speaker B: And I know one of the things this kind of goes into the. [00:07:39] Speaker A: Because that way you don't worry about red shirting. Like, you know, the red shirting thing at the four year schools is a mess. You know, when do you declare it? Do you declare it? Do you have to go back and declare it? That's always been a mess. And I think if we could just get to. You got five. Once your clock starts, you got five to finish and that's it. [00:07:55] Speaker B: One of the things I know that I've heard through the grapevines is the whole where eligibility is different, how Division 2, 3 and NAI do it where your freshman year, say you're at an NJCAA school, they'll take whatever that eligibility was and apply it, right? So you go from. We'll just use Howard, Angelo State, because that's where I went Howard to Angelo State. Angelo State will honor whatever Howard did. When you go D1, it's a whole nother set of rules and they get to kind of decide what they want to take and what they don't want to take. So I know that's been a. This case with Pavia has brought up a bunch of stuff where there's loopholes or there's. There's certain things that aren't really beneficial for the JUCO person going in. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Not necessarily by design, but by anything too. Like there's a discrepancy. We talk about this at the convention. There's a discrepancy between a person that starts at Division 1 and what their eligibility is as far as a GPA. And the JUCO kids get hurt on that because they have to be at a 2.5 where a junior at say a kid start as a freshman, a four year school and they're a junior. Their GPA doesn't have to be as high as a JUCO transfer in. So I think there's a discrepancy there, which we've talked about that a lot. Jeff Willis runs our. He's our committee chair for njca and we've talked about that a lot in our individual meetings as far as streamlining that. But it's also two different entities. And you know, there's things that the NCAA looks at as the other levels. They're not the same entity because they're not in the NCAA organization. They're not in that group. So they. They look at it differently about what's fair for everybody. What's fair for every athlete. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean that. That's been a lot of conversations I've been a part of. Been flies on walls. I know there's. There. It's kind of all over and people aren't sure what's going on because sides aren't. Sides aren't necessarily wanting to play nice with each other, which doesn't make sense, but I get why that doesn't make sense. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Anytime you get egos involved, it's a. It's a bad thing. So people need to drop their egos. And we talk about this a lot. On the youth side, it's about providing a service to the athletes. And I think once you start to view it that way is we're all in service of the athletes to provide an experience for them. I think it changes your view on things. It should be about providing the best experience for all athletes at every level. I don't care what level of baseball we're talking about from youth up to pro. It should be about providing the athletes the best experience. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And as far as I know, it was a one year thing that really affects. I think it was 20, 21, I think was the year. But other than that, that. That's as far as I know of what really was affected. It's that one year and if you played that year, you can petition to get it back. You're not guaranteed it, but you can petition. And so that, that was a. That was a fun. A fun couple days. In the world of the junior college. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Realm of things, it's always fun to dream on things for you as you're working through the top 25 stuff. Did anything stick out for you? [00:11:07] Speaker B: Depends on the levels. So they're like. Like last year. Right. So with. With the Division 2 schools again, I think I discovered this. I thought it was then this year would be the first year of it, but last year I remember being on the show and you're like, oh yeah, no, that's active. This year with the at large bit thing, which I think they did it right for. For once, I don't necessarily agree with how the Division 3 side does it. I got into the weeds with explaining how they have historically done it versus how I think it should be done. When it came down to the D2 at large bids last year and people are like, this should be the team. And everyone gets upset. And I'm like, well, this is the first year y'all have ever had it. The Division 3 side has had it. And this is how they've generally gone with. So that's my thought process and who I'm naming. Do I think it should be them? No, I think it should be these guys. And it ended up being the other two. And I think one of them played for a national title or both made the semis. So they're picking the right teams, which. That's. That's awesome. But just like last year, a lot of D2 schools moved, so, like all of Alabama split. So Dothan dropped down last year. Well, this year there's a couple more new schools, like in Missouri, there's a couple new ones in Arkansas. But lsu, Eunice, talking to Jeff, they made the jump from Division 2 to Division 1, which I think that's going to. I mean, I still think it's going to run through Delgado and LSU. Eunice, when it comes to that district, because the D1 Alabama size. I'm sorry, I don't see them as heavy hitters as the D2 side. But that was fun. Like, like with Gaston and Yalls neck of the woods two, three years ago when they made that jump. It's like, okay, y'all should have been at the World series as a D2 team in your first year, but now you're making this jump, the competition is going to be a little bit different. So it then became the. How. How do you weigh the. The D2 tuning, making the jump. Even though Eunice should. Should probably have competed for a World Series in Grand Junction, it's just, how do I then compare them? Because you have a lot of the same guys from the year before. How does that compare? So that I. Probably, for me, I always give them a little bit bump down. I know a lot of people are, oh, it's. It's the name. Well, yes, LSU units has earned that. But also look at it comparatively. Okay, they got a lot of the same guys. And I mean, as I say, the preseason rankings are fun. Even I know it. I mean, it's. It's a fun part of the job. But it's like, prove me wrong if I rank you wrong. Prove me wrong if I can be bullet and board, do it. Show me it. I'm here for it. If I can somehow ignite a fire that's going to cause you to go win a title, by all means, let's do it. It helps you what you know. But I'm also weird where I can sit. Baseball is baseball's baseball, and I can sit at a T ball game and be happy. [00:13:48] Speaker A: So now With Eunice leaving, obviously that opens the door for Pearl River a lot. Right. And I saw they. They want a big one yesterday. Looked like they. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:56] Speaker A: Opponent yesterday. But that pretty much opens the door. I know that league is really good and don't come at me that league. I know you guys are great, but Pearl river obviously is. Has been there, has won the national championship. Does that open the door up for them a little bit easier? [00:14:10] Speaker B: I. I just. Part of you wants. Wants to say yes, right? Because it's been 1A, 1B and they've been battling well then now East Central has come on really strong the last couple years. I mean they were the at large bid last year. Gosh, I'm a. Hold on. I'm gonna pull up names because I don't want to offend anybody because I would forget schools, but all of Mississippi as a whole. Does it open the door for Pearl? Yes, but I think it also, it adds a team that probably should have been in the regional the last couple years. But because Eunice would get that just automatic bid, it. It's going to give another team a chance to cause chaos. And I've said this for years, I love the region 23 tournament is. I don't know how to compare it. I know all the other people listening, they're probably like this junior college in the weeds. I don't know. I don't. It's not like the SEC tournament where anything can happen, but it's like a regional. Like the best thing I can explain it. It's like Fresno State in 2009 winning the West. And it's like anything can happen in that thing. And anything has happened in all eight teams that make it are all good enough to win a national title, but only one, well, now two, I guess can make it out. But it's. I mean, Pearl's always got a chance. Jones is got. Always got a chance. East Central. I mean, those are the top three that I had coming out of there. Mississippi, Gulf coast is getting back to where they've been. I mean you can go on and on. East Mississippi cajomas, their new staff over there. I think it's their second or third year. They're getting that program back to just instead of being kind of, oh, we're playing cajoma. Let's just, you know, you could. There's not an easy weekend in Mississippi when it comes to junior college baseball. And I think I've said this every year. I love that there's this week random rule for Mississippi where like 95% of your roster has to be Mississippi kids. I think it's the greatest thing ever. And it's like, oh, Mississippi high school baseball is not that good actually. But let's look at it this way. And then you're like, oh, it's like they're always my. They're all. It's. And I have friends that live out there and they're like, you need to come out here. I'm like, I know with, with the way things are going, hopefully sooner or later I can make it out on a trip and spend two weeks in Mississippi and just bounce from little town to little town and just have some fun and see all these awesome facilities they've got out there because they are not junior college facilities by any means. [00:16:33] Speaker A: But I know your top 25 might be different than the NJCA top 25. Preseason just came out. But obviously people feel pretty good about Brunswick, who was there last year. But they've got them ranked one preseason and I mean, they got 10 first place votes and nobody else got any first place votes. So do they have a lot coming back from last year? [00:16:52] Speaker B: I had them at 18. I had. Granted, I had. I liked other teams more. I know they have a good deal back. They lost a huge, huge bat. I think he's going to Coastal. I think he was. I think he was a player of the year last year, I think so. They lost a lot of bats. This is where, knowing how they do it, it's. It's coat you. I think it's 10 coaches from all divisions and then you submit it. So a lot of it is done preseason based off of the year before. I think Brunswick, I mean, Brunswick's Region 10. So they've got, I mean, Catawba Valley, I think, out there, the Yetis of Cleveland. I think they're finally starting to get things rolling again. I know they had a rough kind of first year and some coaching changes and kind of stuff didn't pan out the way they wanted to, to start. But they've got a bunch of good guys over there and they now get. No, wait, that's the Division 3. They now go against Florida. I think, I think it's still them. All these things are changing. I think it's the same as last year, but Brunswick, I think will be good. I think a lot of people were higher on them, but I also get really, really into the weeds on some stuff and that's why I have all those. [00:18:04] Speaker A: What's your top 10? So Division 2, let's stay with you. What's your top 10. [00:18:08] Speaker B: So I got Pima at one. They won Region 1 West last year, Division 1 West. And then there are two schools that drop down and they have the whole team back. Huge staff there. I had Pearl at 2. I could have gone. They were kind of 1A, 1B for me. But I'm like, you know what? Pearl's the easy one. Pima, that one's more fun. But again, prove me wrong. [00:18:30] Speaker A: And you look at the history of the last couple of years of Division 2, of the teams that have dropped down, that have made it the World Series, it's happened just about every year in Enid or a team that's St. John's or whatever. It's happened every year where teams drop down to Division 2 where they've actually made the World Series. [00:18:46] Speaker B: So then it. I have Pima, Pearl River, Heartland. Great staff. I love the cop. Was it the corn crib? That feels awesome. And the name is amazing. Then Frederick over there. And I think it's Maryland or it's New Jersey. It's one of the two. [00:19:00] Speaker A: It's Maryland. [00:19:01] Speaker B: And then South Mountain, another team that dropped down. And then Southeastern Iowa. Lansing up there in Michigan, Madison in Wisconsin, Mercer county, which, funny enough, is where my mom's from. And I saw a picture of it, I was like, that looks like where you're from. She's like, oh, yeah, no, I'm from Mercer County. I was like, oh, of course you are. And then I have St. John Rivers. [00:19:20] Speaker A: At 10 for the Division 2 side family. Side note for me, too. My mom was the admissions director, admissions and enrollment director at Heartland Community College for a long time. My parents Bloomington Normal. So she basically didn't really build that place, but that school's fairly new there. My mom was on the ground floor of getting that started there. [00:19:42] Speaker B: It's. They're one where it's, you know what you're gonna get. They're gonna have a new crew every year. I'm so glad they finally won it two years ago. It was about time. And I know Shout out to their. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Team because Adam McGinnis is one of their assistants. He actually caught for me at Western Illinois. [00:20:00] Speaker B: It's. It's. It's awesome to see kind of the. And this is where it's been fun. Now this is your. I think my first year doing this was 18, so this is either year eight or nine, I think. But it's cool seeing especially coaches that, you know, might have been the assistants when I first started. And granted, that's who I was talking to. But now it's I mean, a prime example is Trey Porres at Wharton. When he came over from New Mexico, the Division 1 New Mexico, over to Wharton as the assistant. It. That's who I was, the point guy. And now he's basically the AD there. So it's like, cool kind of seeing like, oh, we're kind of growing this together. Granted, a lot of y'all are friends now, and y'all. I. There. There was a lot of texts two weeks ago, Ryan. There's a lot of texts because everyone knows I'm a Cowboys fan. And I'm like, hey, if I'm loud, y'all let me all you want, I'll take it. I'll be depressed like that. Just know next fall is going to be rough. [00:20:53] Speaker A: All right, so switch over to Division 1. So give us your top 10. Division 1. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Division 1. So I had Iowa Western 1. I think they had probably the best pitching staff in the country. I know I had them one. I think one. I think perfect game might have had them one, two. I can't quite remember Johnson county two. Then the next two were kind of tough. And they're like, in my backyard, I had Weatherford three, McLennan four, Crowder at five, defending champs Blin at six, Gaston at seven, Floatar at eight, Wabash at nine. And then Florida Southwestern State at 10. And I think Florida Southwestern State had one of the coolest. I mean, they had a whole bunch of guys come in. I can't remember their coach's name, but I think it's his second or third year there. And they've turned that. They've always been good and they've always put out. Put out guys and moved guys on and. And done what. The reason junior college is here for, to put players at the next position, the next spot. They've always done that. And they've always had a lot of hype at the beginning of the years, but then they've kind of fallen off by the wayside. Not just because Florida is that tough and doggy dog, but it's kind of like I'm going to use Weatherford as an example. They finally got over the hump of like a decade of we're really great and we have all these guys, but then when it came down to the end of the season, they just couldn't win. And, I mean, I think they finished third two years ago. They. They've been the runner up. I mean, they have McLennan, they have Grayson, they've got all them. But I think Florida Southwestern, they have in My opinion, the best shortstop in all of junior college baseball. And Luke Orfi, he was the dude at Georgia Highlands last year. Ends up transferring to Florida Southwestern and I think he's committed to Texas Tech. Was the first guy to commit of this whole class this year, but he's a little undersized, but he's athletic as I'll get up. I think he stole 60 bases last year, hit like four for something in Georgia, which is not easy to do. And if he can even put up half of that at Alabama or not in Alabama, in Florida, it's going to be one of those names where in, in my opinion, granted, I have no say in any of this. I, I've talked to people that could potentially do this, but you know, the golden spikes, you have the golden spikes thing. He would be a name player wise that I would put there as you know, preseason watch list. Now the last junior college player to win it is Bryce Harper. He's his own special story, right? Jackson Rutledge, I think was a finalist or a semifinalist, so. And again he's another kind of anomaly. But if you're doing a preseason or watch list, I think Orpheus should be on it just because of what he did last year. And now he's basically going to even a tougher league. And as from what I've seen has just picked up where he left off. But I think Florida is going to be in every league. I think this year is going to be tough. And I think from where, where the COVID years, right where everything's kind of been backed up, I think we're completely out of that. It, it is now back, back to the junior college of old where you're going to get the guys that transfer out and want to get drafted and go. You've got the guys that are coming in, you've got the guys. Now that especially over the last eight years and now the junior college route, it's like, oh, this is a completely viable route to get to where I'm wanting to go. Whether it's school, whether it's playing, whether it's professionally it. The stigma at least around the baseball side of things from, from where I sit is gone. Like if I wear a juco route sweatshirt when I'm walking around, people are like, oh, baseball is different. And like they've kind of realized it in the last eight years. Which is kind of fun to see from where I am because I remember, oh, you go to a junior college and there's baseball. Can you even do anything like, well, actually like you can, but now it's more commonplace and I know I was. [00:24:47] Speaker A: At Grand Junction last year, by the way. I made it first time. [00:24:50] Speaker B: One of these years. One of these years I'm gonna make. [00:24:52] Speaker A: It first time ever. It was awesome. I've heard it's amazing and eating it a lot, but it was awesome. The whole setup, it's just. I would highly encourage anyone to get to Grand Junction. Not just the stadium itself, but how the tournament is run, the town itself. Grand Junction itself is a beautiful, beautiful place. It's just, they do it right. And the field was great. Last year, was very impressed with the field last year. All 10 of those teams were very, very good. It's a wild, wild setup there. You always heard it, but you have to go experience it because the ball flies there. It's a wild setup because you may give up 8, 10 runs in an inning and then bounce back and score eight or 10 runs. So it's fun, the environment's fun, but they do it right. And that stadium is packed. It's a very unique setup because the baseball stadium butts up with the football stadium. So the, the press box basically is the, where the football coaches sit. So it's, it's a very cool, very unique setup there. And that field last year was, was tremendous. [00:26:02] Speaker B: Last year's field, I think that was one where you're looking at it and I was like, I don't know how they're going to. And I love how they've added the seating aspect to it. I love that they've added that in. But I was looking at it and I was like, I don't, I don't know how you're going to do it. I think when I did my predictions, I had like two or three flipped, but it was like, well, this is one, because this is one going in. And I mean, to your point, blend. Last year, I think in the semifinals, let up like 15 runs in like the eighth, but then the next game come back and score like 20. And I was like, what, what has happened? Like, it's, and now it's, it's awesome now that. Especially with the deal that NJCAA has with espn because it used to be okay, I'd have to like find this stream and go through this channel to this channel. But now it's, hey, I remember having, we were having the 10 year old's birthday party, or not birthday party, his baseball party. And I'm like, hey, I'm watching all these games. We're at the games and I'm like, sitting there watching these all unfold, and people are like, oh, are you watching? It's like, actually like, this. This is Blend. This is. Where are these schools that I go. Okay, not to get too into the weeds, but. And then it. But it's a lot of fun. I know. Hopefully I'll. Hopefully I'll make it out there. I know it. I think I've said this every year, too. When I got married, I was not doing this. And so my wedding anniversary is Memorial Day weekend. [00:27:26] Speaker A: I'll carry on for you. We'll be all right. [00:27:28] Speaker B: So it's like, for you, one of. One of these years, I was like, hey, babe, let's go to. Let's go to Colorado for, like. [00:27:33] Speaker A: Although that would be a good destination spot, actually. She would enjoy it. So. [00:27:37] Speaker B: And I'm like, I know people go. [00:27:39] Speaker A: To Grand Junction not just for the baseball side of it, but it's right in, like, top 10 towns in the United States, which I didn't know that until I got there, and I was looking through pamphlets, but you can see why their downtown areas is very cool, very unique. All right, get to Division three here. Top ten, Division three. [00:27:55] Speaker B: Top ten, Division three. If. If you've known me at all, I love the Division 3 schools. Not just because it's like, I love junior college as a whole, but the Division Threes. Division Threes are. Especially if you don't understand how the regions do it, which I didn't at first. So obviously, you have the Texas schools that do things different, the Minnesota schools do things different, but it's the same as, like, Division 3 NCAA schools in the Northeast. The New York's like, they just. The funding's different, but it doesn't mean the baseball's different. Like Gloucester, the run they've been on the last two years has been amazing to watch, but I. I actually did not have them as my number one team. But I really liked a. I think it's even a. Not. Not a region rival, but a. Like a district rival. I had S U N Y who just changed their name, which that was a fun thing to discover because, like, why can't I find Niagara? Oh, it's S U N Y Niagara now. But I had them at one. I had Richland, who finished third and actually won Texas last year I had them at 2, Gloucester at 3, Northern Essex, who's kind of been the runaway team in that region. Not necessarily because of it. It's weak, but there's not many teams in that region, and it's kind of them. And Everyone else. Then I had Eastfield, who has played in. I believe, if I remember the right, they've played in the last three national title games and have lost all three. Which. Okay. Bills, like, just to get there alone is hard, but to do it three years in a row. And I think three years ago, they had to get past Tyler, too. And then they make it. It's. Yeah. And then camp. Love the guys over at camp. I think. I think they're going for their third or fourth. I know their coach just. Rollins just won. I think it was the Virginia coach of the year this past year, which. To be a junior college coach in Virginia, which is a very, very, from my understanding, deep college, like state, baseball, state, and to be the coach of the year there. I know he texted me. He's like, hey, this just happened. I was like, oh, let's go, dude. Then Erie, another New York School at 7, Herkimer at 8, Hudson Valley at 9, and then Century in Minnesota at 10. They've got a bunch of huge bats back. I think my DH All American DH was a freshman last year for them, and he's back. I think he's kind of split time between DH and 1st. But a huge, huge bat in Minnesota. I love the Minnesota tournament, too. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Century's been around for how many years now? Seven, eight. [00:30:24] Speaker B: They've been. I mean, they. It's been a while. I know it's longer than that because they were playing. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Tyler knew when I was still in the Midwest, I knew. I knew they were kind of starting things there. And it might be longer, but it all runs together for me. [00:30:36] Speaker B: But because I know they were. They raina Tyler a bunch. I think they won it the year before. Tyler won, like, four in a row. And then they played Tyler a time or two during it. But again, that's like all, like. Like you say, all the years kind of run together, and every year I'm like, oh, gosh, how am I gonna, like, restart the brain? And, like, I have to clear this. But I still remember guys from last year. But, like, input all the new people. But it's. Every year I'm like, oh, wait, you just start chugging along. And for me, when. When doing these, I thought. I always think, oh, it's gonna be some. It's. It is a lot of information. But when I do all, like, the team individual previews, I'll go through it. But when I do that, I'll then put a number by them on, like, a spreadsheet I have, and it's like, okay, I think they should be 10. Like, this is kind of where I think they should be. But then when I go back to finally do it, I then, you know, I can click, pull up my notes. Okay, this is what I did. Even though I wrote the thing in November and I'm now doing this in January, I can kind of, you know, go back, compare, rethink. Oh, these guys transferred in. These guys moved. It's. [00:31:42] Speaker A: I was going to ask you that. Did you talk to me in the Division 3 coaches about the venue switch going to New York from. No, because I missed my flight, got delayed going from Grand Junction. I was going to try to make it one day and my flight got delayed in Denver and so I couldn't get there. I went to the Division 3 World Series. But I am going to try to get to, to New York this year to see it since that, that's one of the ones I have not been to yet. And I want to try to make it that this year. [00:32:09] Speaker B: If it's the field, I'm, I'm. Because it's at Cuyahoga, Cayuga, they just redid their whole field. So I finally, every year I say, oh, one of the first things when I started this eight years ago or whatever, I did the facilities because, oh, junior colleges don't have good facilities. Well, especially now. Big lie. Huge. Huge. [00:32:29] Speaker A: If you don't do the research out. When I, I can't remember, was it Delgados? [00:32:33] Speaker B: Delgado's locker room? Yeah, it's like. Like what? [00:32:37] Speaker A: As good as the, the Power 5 locker rooms that I've. [00:32:40] Speaker B: And so I, I finally went back and went through every single school, even the California schools. I mean, West Valley, Holy cow, that field, it's like a. They did like a $5 million renovation of it like this past year. Their whole new staff was there and like, their only thing they're complaining about is that they're in Silicon Valley in the neighborhood, and because of where they are, they can't have lights. So, like they have to play all day games. But it's like this brand new, beautiful turf field. These huge indoor locker rooms and batting cages, and they're like, we don't have lights. Like, we wish we could have lights, but like, we can't. But I want to say Cuyahoga just redid all of their stuff. So it is a brand new field. It was already nice, but they just like renovated it and made it even bigger. So I haven't necessarily talked to them about it, but I know looking at Tuscolum, I think was the school There. Yeah, it. They're not going to a smaller field. They're not. They're not downgrading anything. If anything, they're, like, staying the same if not getting a little bit better. One year, I want to make it. I. There's been. There's been a lot of stuff that's happened in probably the last, like, month in. In JBB world. That's been a lot of fun, and I can't necessarily share any of it just yet, but it's been. There's been. There's been a lot of, like, fun developments where, oh, I might actually potentially be able to travel or get out, other than just staying kind of around Dallas. But it's been. It's been fun. And I think one year I want to hit all three. I think if you could hit all three in one foul swoop in a year, I don't think they could. I don't know if that would work out or you could be there all. [00:34:22] Speaker A: Weeks, but you could. Because I've done it. Not all of them, but because the NWAC and California start first, and then you kind of work your way and pick your poison with either going to Enid or Grand Junction, and then you can pick up New York on the back end of it. It's doable. I mean, it would be. It would be crazy. I like getting there for the practice day. That's probably the most enjoyable thing I get to do when I go cover the championships is go do the interviews with the coaches. I love that part of it because I get to meet people I've never met before and you have a better appreciation of it. And then if anybody. Besides the JB JBB site, if you go to our site. Since collegiate baseball went away, we actually do have polls. Our coaches actually do provide the polls on our website, if you want to go to Org and see our polls, because we have the NWAC and the Pacific association on there, too. And WAC hasn't really started. They're not closed yet, so they haven't put theirs out yet. But the north and the South Pole for California is the top five for those sides are a lot of names you're going to see every year. The north is Folsom Lake, Santa Rosa, Fresno City, West Valley, and then San Joaquin Delta, and then on the south side, it's Saddleback, Santa Ana, Cerritos, Palomar, and then Golden West. So it's a lot of those same names of teams that have made the Final Four the last. Last three, four years in California, and that's A well run tournament too. I like the way that they do it because it's the best two teams out of the north play the best two teams out of the south. And so it's, it's, it's cool how they do it. And with only four teams, everybody gets to take BP on the field. They take in and out. Like it's, it's a really good setup for California because they don't have as many teams that make it. [00:36:05] Speaker B: Well, they, with California, like the World Series. World Series, yeah. It's only four, but the way to get there. [00:36:11] Speaker A: It's a bear. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Is, it is legit. [00:36:13] Speaker A: It's a bear. [00:36:14] Speaker B: It is awesome. It's, it is. We're gonna split this sucker and we're gonna go. I, I, I try to cover as much as I can of. I, I'm better at the, the California side because a lot. I mean I lived there for a few years so I got to meet a couple of them and so I kind of had an understanding that NWAC I've tried. There's been a couple schools that I, you know, I've talked to them, but it's like I, it's so hard to find some information. So if, if you have information, please send it my way. I, I, all junior colleges seems like. [00:36:42] Speaker A: They have quite a bit of turnover with coaches up there for, for whatever reason because they get jobs. Just see when you, you're on the NWAC website, it just seems like guys honestly get a lot of pro jobs out of that with their coaches. [00:36:54] Speaker B: But with, with California this year, I think this is so good. Friends of mine got a job in California and then there they obviously recruit. The junior college drop really heavily. And I'm like, they're like, what, how should we attack, you know, California? And I was like, well, these are basically all the schools you said. But I was like, there's a couple other ones I think woven in there. [00:37:16] Speaker A: Like, and I, I, and that's, that's no disrespect. That's just the top five that we had. I mean we've got, I think 20, 20 to 25 on both sides just for time purposes, like. And go through all of them. Yeah, there's going to be teams on the outside of that top five on both sides that have a legitimate chance of, of winning the state championship in California. [00:37:35] Speaker B: Like I always say, I love, I loved where I lived in California, love the San Luis Obispo area. But Cuesta is kind of like this hidden little gem in the Central Valley and Cal Poly Gets a lot of their guys. I think their head coach was a head coach at Cuesta before he got the poly job. But this year I didn't do as much. I tried to, I tried to do a ranking for them one year, especially when I lived out there and it just seemed like I just couldn't keep up with it as much. I mean there's 98 schools and it's great baseball, but hey, I mean. [00:38:05] Speaker A: And they are well into it right now. When you look at that poll like they. There's teams that have played five, six, seven games already because they start earlier than everybody else. [00:38:14] Speaker B: So they started last week. So whenever this airs. I don't know when this airs, but the week ago was week one, Monday. Okay, sweet. So last week they, I mean, Feather river had a four game sweep, but their coach, I believe, I think I said it on my show, but he just hit 500 wins. I think it was 500 wins at Feather River. Not just, oh, I have 500 coaching wins. No, I have 500 wins at Feather River. So I'm like, nope. And they had a guy, Kanto something easy job either. [00:38:41] Speaker A: They're up in the mountains. [00:38:43] Speaker B: So it's like I, if I see it, I will share it. I will blast it. Like the West Valley guys, I got to know them this past summer. I did a couple, couple calls with them. I think if I were to put my ranking on it, I really liked. [00:38:58] Speaker A: Feather river and they are right outside the top. I think they're ranked seventh in that predator River. [00:39:03] Speaker B: Folsom Lake really liked what they had going on. I think. Wow, words are hard. Sack one king Delta. They're going to be. So they're going to be in a bit of a transition. So their head coach, what's the other school it's in? Is it Gonzaga? No, not. That's in Washington. There's a school in. There's a D1 school where they're from and he took that job. So the head coach changed. I know there's a bunch of turnaround over there. They're still gonna be good. I just think, to think Delta of old, it might not be the. Oh, it's the powerhouse of the north. And they're gonna just come up like they're still gonna have good guinea guys because of the name. But at the same time I think they're going to be a little bit of a, a notch lower than. [00:39:48] Speaker A: But that's for the North. Folsom Lake, Santa Rosa, West Valley and San Joaquin Delta all got first place. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Votes for that it's, it's gonna be fun. I know that's a tournament. I don't know it's rotated. I know it was at Fresno, I think it was at San Francisco a couple times. I know it kind of like bounces around from like place to place. [00:40:08] Speaker A: I think it was at Mount Sac last year. They're, they're another one right outside of San Diego. [00:40:15] Speaker B: That's another one that's always really, really good. [00:40:17] Speaker A: I think are there in la, Mount Saxon. La, because that's where there's one. They host a bunch of all star stuff and, and tryouts there in the summertime. [00:40:26] Speaker B: I know I, one day we might get there. I know about five, five years ago there was someone who was very, very heavy on trying to get ACCA school to Grand Junction. I know the calendars were never going to like a line, right. But I think the top school, top one or two take the two finalists. Best from the north, best from the South. Whoever wins that, hey, let's go play one more week of baseball. Make it a 12 team crazy tournament. [00:40:53] Speaker A: I think like you could take the NWAC winner and the California winner and, and send them there and then you basically do 3, 4, 3 team pods is how you would do it. That's how you would do it to make it work. I think it would be easier for the coaches and the players is basically, I think the ACC tournament was that way for a While. You get 12 teams there and you basically have three team pods. Whoever comes out of those pods, the winners play each other, those winners play. And then you could do a best two out of three, probably same amount of games and alleviates a little bit of the schedule too. But I think it would be again, I think in different terms on some of that is what would be best. But if we could get the California and NWAC schools there, I think it would be awesome. It adds another layer to it. And then you, you could. Then, then you got a national champion. [00:41:46] Speaker B: I do know for a while NWAC school like in the Falls, you could do it. So I know a lot of schools in Arizona would go play San Diego schools or LA schools. But I want to say there's been some, some leeway with it because I know there's been a couple NWAC schools. Treasure Valley I think is one of them. Another one from Washington. They'll come down to Arizona and they'll play like two weeks of like Southern Nevada. Arizona, that's another one. Sorry. A little fun. ADHD Southern Nevada is now not in their old region. I think it was 18. They are now in Region 1, so Southern Nevada has to play all the Arizona schools. That's going to cause even more chaos because usually, okay, we're going to pencil in Southern Nevada out of that region for that tournament. We're going to pitch, pencil in Arizona Central Arizona or Arizona Western or South Mountain. But they left. So now, like, it's just gonna. In, like, Central Arizona. I mean, they're. I think it's their first year with a new coach. [00:42:44] Speaker A: I think second, second or third. [00:42:47] Speaker B: But it's. Again, it's like those guys now are at Washington. And I remember I got a text about two weeks ago, like, hey, I'm at Washington State now. I was like, dude, I loved Washington State when their old staff was there. Let's. Let's keep this train going. You know, it's that. That's, I think, the fun part for all this. I was asked recently, like, what's. What's the why, right? Like, what, why. Why'd you start it? And then why did you keep doing it? Or, you know, like, because sometimes you start something and then, like, the why you're doing it changed. And my thing was always, well, what. What do I wish was there when I was a player, right? Or not a player. I was a trainer, but, like, played with all those guys. I was basically part of the team. And like, you. You knew you had the. The Perfect Game poll in the NJCAA poll. Well, why is this Team Chipola from Florida? What, they're not better than us. We were ranked preseason number one. We don't know anything about them other than this coach says they're better than us, which they're not, you know? And so I'm like, well, if I could maybe say how they did it or why they did it or kind of give the. The picture, it might. Might make more sense. And then ultimately, it was the number of guys, which. This is the fun, the Twitter X part of it, where stuff has changed even from when I started. Like, me. I remember getting a text the first year I did stuff. Hey, like, I got this guy who's uncommitted. Could you, like, tweet this video out? And I'm like, why not? Like, what? What's the harm of it? And now there's a whole freaking career of being an online recruiting thing, which is, oh, yeah, wild to think, but it's like, the little guys, let's get. [00:44:17] Speaker A: Back on track here. I want for each level, all right, for 1, 2, and 3, I want you to give me your top two position players and then top two pitchers. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:26] Speaker A: For 1, 2, 3. Just for names for people to track. You already mentioned Luke or Fee. [00:44:32] Speaker B: Love the guy. [00:44:33] Speaker A: Yep. So, you know, stay with division two or division. Stay with division one if you want. [00:44:38] Speaker B: Okay. Another big one. It's another guy in Florida. This. This is going to be a position guy. This really cool story from Puerto Rico ended up going to Rochester in Minnesota. Tore it up. I'm going to butcher his name, but it's Augusto Mangarita. He's committed to Kansas, but I remember he tore it up in Minnesota, played it in the Northwoods. Tore it up. I got a call from Kansas over the summer, like, hey, do you know this kid? I was like, I don't know. No him. I know a story, but ends up transferring to northwest Florida and is there, like, day one catcher down there? [00:45:13] Speaker A: And I believe Kansas scaling on the juco route, by the way. [00:45:16] Speaker B: I mean, both. Both of those coaches, Coin and Brandon Scott, like. [00:45:20] Speaker A: And Fitz and Brandon Scott, like, all of them have. Three are juco guys, so. And they found their niche. And everybody talks about the transfer portal, but they've done a good job of. Of keeping it on the juco side that they've had impact juco players. [00:45:34] Speaker B: I mean, they had a dude from Heartland. Hartle. Heart. Heart something. [00:45:38] Speaker A: It's Hardle. Ben Partle. [00:45:41] Speaker B: He. He was a Heartland to Kansas, and I think he's still there. Maybe he's done. I can't remember off the top. [00:45:47] Speaker A: I give your two top pitchers pop pictures. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Mathis, not real Cochise kid in Arizona. I really liked him. I think he just committed to Kansas. I think I have it, like, updated where people are committed. But I remember getting a text. I think it was him. And then being like, let people know he's. He's. Kansas's. He's. He's ours. I was like, okay, another big one. Pictures for me. Because I don't get out as much as I like pictures. For me, it's the same thing with, like, draft stuff. I. I can say an opinion, but if I don't physically like cc, I don't feel like I can do justice of, like, well, I could put a list together for the sake of putting a list together. But like, oh, gosh, hold on, let me. This might be better if I go to my preseason all American list. [00:46:32] Speaker A: There we go. [00:46:33] Speaker B: That'll. That'll make things a little bit easier. But my pitcher of the year. Not your traditional pitcher of the year. He was a cult closer for Polk last year. JT Long committed to DBU. I think he had like 19 or 20 saves last year. But I'm like, why? I, I can be different. I, I, I pay my own bills. Like, I, I can say what I want to say. And having a closer be like a preseason pitcher of the year, it's like, no, like he's gonna come in, he's gonna do his job and he's good at doing it. You can do it as a freshman. You're only going to do better at it as a sophomore. And then another pitcher. Picture, picture, picture. Adrian Jar was another preseason all American for me. He was at Navarro. I think he's a Lamar commit. Another school that frequently likes the, the junior college route. [00:47:26] Speaker A: All right, let's stay with that. All right, so go to D2, give us your preseason position. Player of the year and then preseason pitcher of the year. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Oh, one more fun one. Kaden Ferrero from Blinn. Two way player of the year. Dude was like the huge part of why Blynn was so successful last year. I think another Texas Tech guy, he. [00:47:49] Speaker A: Was on the podcast with me. They played hard. Blend. Blend basically willed their way to that tournament win because they played so hard. [00:47:56] Speaker B: That was a. So for D2 from Patrick Henry, the T or the two way guy of the year, I had Dylan Grabowski, 5, 11, 200 foot. Not 200 foot, 200 pound guy. That would be a huge person. Committed to Liberty. The player of the year. This one. I know a lot of people were skeptical of it. It's a catcher. Bladen Carver from noc. Tonk poured up last year. He's committed to East Carolina. Dude was like, I'm like, you know what? You were first team all American as a freshman. Let's just run it back. I know Tonk's gonna be really, really good. I had him a little lower. I think Oklahoma as a whole is going to be really good this year on the D2 side of things. And then pitcher of the year, another, not closer, but a relief pitcher from Pearl River. And A.J. hansen, a righty 6, 2, 2, 10. I don't think I have any of his Velo stuff, but it was another big kind of relief guy. I think he was the number one guy out of the pin last year, which made, I mean, having a reliable. [00:48:55] Speaker A: Guy on the reliever piece. By the way, they don't get enough love, but they're going to impact your team way more on wins and losses than starters are. They are. Because if you have good ones, you'll win games. If you have bad ones, you'll lose. [00:49:07] Speaker B: Games and that, that's when I started doing the all American stuff. I was like, well starters always get the love when you do pitchers, right? But I'm like, there's some of these relievers that okay, they had 40 innings and they're five and oh, and they had a K to walk ratio and they struck out 50 guys and walked to like. No, you're so I always try to have a closer and a couple relievers in there and then have starters just to like, no, I'm going to make sure we're hitting all kind of the. Because they're all good. You need to, I think, I mean magnify anyone you can the best way you can, Division three wise. [00:49:40] Speaker A: And by the way, I love that you're doing two way players because I'm a big two way fan. I always was for 22 years of coaching. And now with the roster cap at Division 1, I think you're going to see more of it now. You're going to see it come back where, where because of the roster limitations you're going to see more two way players again. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Who was it? Brandon from Louisville like maybe seven years ago. Louisville two way guy. I think he brought McKay too. [00:50:04] Speaker A: Like they, they him. [00:50:05] Speaker B: Brandon McKay. That's the name. [00:50:06] Speaker A: Okay. Louisville's had a good run of two way players. There's been some programs still had that. All right, what do you got? [00:50:12] Speaker B: What do you got? [00:50:12] Speaker A: Division three here. [00:50:13] Speaker B: Division three. The pitcher of the year I had, Brandon Farr was a second team all American. He's from Richland, right down the street from me. The T Ducks. Thunder Ducks. That's one of the probably funner logos in all of junior college baseball. It kind of looks like Daffy Duck, but it's definitely not. Or maybe it's Donald, but it's just a duck holding a lightning bolt in a kind of a cartoony way and it's awesome. The two way guy there is Armani Pollino from Northern Essex was. Yeah, Northern Essex, I guess. Yeah. Okay. And then the player of the year was Gavin Boyle from S U N Y Niagara and outfielder Southern Indiana. Commit. I was an all American last year. I know. Especially this kind of circling back to the Division 3. I know talking with them. A lot of pro scouts have come to look at him as an outfielder in which a Division 3 junior college guy getting drafted, it's not uncommon but especially position wise it's even more kind of like hold up, wait a minute. And I know the new staff at Southern Indiana really, really liked what he did this fall for him there? He's gonna flip that thing. I'm convinced. I love, I love the old staff, but he's gonna, he's gonna flip that new thing. I mean, he did it at. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Oh gosh, he did it there. [00:51:26] Speaker B: You can do it at Lenor. [00:51:27] Speaker A: It's in my hometown now, so hopefully you can get it going. No, no disrespect to the Purple Aces where I, I played and coached, but Ram will do a good job. It's a good fit there. [00:51:38] Speaker B: But it's. Yeah, I mean this year is going to be a lot of fun. I think it's, it's kind of back to, to normal to say normal like, because I've guess been almost covering in a decade to say normal of year one. Like even then it wasn't what it is. I think it's still such a. Especially with all the legislative stuff that's going on. I think that's there. That's still a bunch of stuff kind of up in the air. But I mean the season started, we're in week two. I know I haven't watched any of the Panama City stuff yet because like we were talking before I, I had dad duties. So I have not watched any of that. But there's great plays yesterday that, doing the preview, digging through that thing. This like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Like, I know all those coaches are loving it. I know especially the John A. Logan's, the Wabash is getting to go down and play and freaking Panama City. Even though if they won a week earlier, they were going to be right back to where they were with eight inches of snow. But it's, we're here. It's going to be awesome. I know there's a great tournament. I think it's this next weekend down here with weather. I think it's Weatherford, Salt Lake City or Salt Lake is coming to Texas. Weatherford, Iowa Western, McLennan are all getting together here in Texas. The tournament of Champions in at San Jac. I think that's kind of getting back going again. It's junior college baseball coaching wise. I think it is a great spot. Coaches that are here are great coaches from everywhere. [00:52:57] Speaker A: It's great coaches. [00:52:58] Speaker B: It's. It's. I don't think ever been better. I think it's coaches are staying longer, if that makes sense. I think you're real. [00:53:07] Speaker A: Some are realizing not always greener on the other side and certain ones I. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Know are getting more funding with baseball specifically. And it's, I mean Odessa just redid their whole field. I Think Woody over there is going to flip that thing around at Odessa and that's hard. I mean I'm wearing a Howard College hoodie or a sweatshirt right now and they're like rivals and I'll always be a homer but I'm probably harder on them than anyone else. But Odessa, if anyone can flip that around, he can do it. It's all the levels are going to be great this year. Even the NWAC, even the the 3C 2A, even the freaking Community College Athletic Club teams like it's. It's in a good spot. And especially with my take on how the roster limits are all changing. I think recruiting wise if you only have so many spots a lot of coaches and I'm not maybe I'm just saying this because this is the world I deal with but recruiting the junior college route, I've had more random schools that you wouldn't think are junior college like schools looking at it because of roster limits because in wanting a proven guy because wanting A hey you hit 400 for two years already or I can take this freshman like which. Which one am I going to want to go with if I only have so many spots? I know you can produce college wise. So I think it's better than ever the spot it's in as a whole and I'm glad people enjoy me covering it still because it's just like you said, it's been eight years of crazy chaos and now it's one of those hey I guess hard work finally does kind of pay off eventually. But yeah, it's gonna be awesome. I can't wait to hopefully. Hopefully maybe this year I can and I have a my wedding during Grand Junction this year I one of my really good friends wedding is like the same weekend so maybe I can drive to Jackson, Mississippi and then fly to Grand Junction and then fly. You know, we'll see. There's. There's a lot of moving parts but I know college baseball as a whole speaking whole hole. D2 is going to be awesome. D3 is going to be awesome. Naia is going to be awesome. I mean there was a no hitter two weeks ago or opening weekend from a school like the second game of the season we already have a no hitter and it's college baseball is awesome. I think I don't know if you like the tweet but sheets and midway's coach were shopping today and I'm like small college baseball is just awesome. I don't I love the D1. I love it. [00:55:26] Speaker A: I don't even college anymore it's just college. Like it spreads across. Slash said that on the. On the interview that we had. It spreads across just because every level is so good. And on any given day, those teams that tee it up in Grand Junction or Enid, they could go to Omaha and play and compete fine. Like it's. I get reminders that every year doing this. All right, Noah, thank you for your time. You're the best. Appreciate you as always. Let's hopefully we connect more than just once a year. [00:55:58] Speaker B: I'm for that. It's always a fun conversation. It's been. Shoot. Wishing you get together in person. Maybe I'll drive up to Enid this year. It's not. It's what, five, six hours away from me. [00:56:06] Speaker A: They're back on the rotation for me, so I think I'll get to Enid this year, so. All right, sir. Appreciate you. [00:56:11] Speaker B: No problem. [00:56:14] Speaker A: Proud of Noah for the work he puts in to cover all levels of junior college baseball. I'm so happy for him that he has stuck with it. Not an easy thing to do year after year. Thanks again to John Litchfield, Zach Hale, and Matt west in the ABCA office for all the help on the podcast. Feel free to reach out to me via [email protected], twitter, Instagram or TikTok CoachBCA or direct message me via the MyABCA app. This is Ryan Brownlee signing off for the American Baseball Coaches Association. Thanks and leave it better for those behind you. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Yep. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Wait for another day. [00:57:04] Speaker B: And the world will always return and your life was never for yearning and you know that. [00:57:16] Speaker A: Way. [00:57:19] Speaker B: Wait for another D.